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i lol at this show.



there was no caroline.
WHERE'S CAROLINE, SHOW?

matt.
lol. what i really want is a jeremy/april/rebekah/matt love rectangle. that would just make all of my days a lot more enjoyable. but most of all, i really just want rebekah to make friends.

bonnie.
bonnie was there. of course the suspiciously witchy guy turned out to be suspicious.
bonnie do not frown upon elena enjoying her feeding. if you continue to do this, it will annoy me. but more on this later.

stefan.
stefan continues to be manipulative, klaus is doing wonders for his character. but lol stefan maybe you should have a talk with elena, rather than, you know, making decisions for her? but i did enjoy his interaction with klaus and rebekah. i need more brotherhood angst, wasn't enough of it, tbqf.

klaus/rebekah.
never change, please.

EAT YOUR VEGGIES, REBEKAH.


these two can stay 5 forever, fine with me.

also, this guys:



klaus is still all about hybrids, which why? but while we get GLORIOUS angst like we did today, i'm ok with that.

BECAUSE GUYS HOW GLORIOUS WERE ALL OF THEIR SCENES? I HAVE NO WORDS, I JUST WANT ALL OF IT, ALWAYS, ON MY SCREEN. those two just want the other to tell them it's ok and they'll love the other forever, my bss.

damon/elena.

damon was glorious, but is anyone still surprised by that?

but elena, people, HER FACE AND HER SMILE, that girl should get fresh blood all the time.

everyone (fine, i mean bonnie) should stop trying to make elena feel guilty.

so:

they're not trying to make her feel like she shouldn't kill people. she's not tried that, she doesn't want that, it's not about that.

i also don't feel like anyone's trying to say is that she shouldn't feed on people, cause everyone's aware that she can't handle non-fresh human blood and it's really drink fresh or die soon, xoxo elena.

so what remains as the only conclusion that makes sense is that the show/bonnie want elena to feel bad because she's enjoying it. which is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING AWFUL ON SO MANY LEVELS. she doesn't kill them, she doesn't ~damage them, everything she does is take a bit of their blood. (and mind you, she's not being judged for taking their blood, she's being judged for enjoying it.)

which, really, bonnie, the next time someone stands by your plate while you eat lunch and make you feel awful because you're enjoying your pork which used to be a happy pig rolling around in mud, well, then we'll talk.

basically, what damon says makes sense. let's try to give it some structure, shall we?

1. vampires are predators.
2. they need blood in order not to be hungry.
3. but they also "get off" on the hunt and well, the predatorish part of being a, well, predator.

looking at it from that pov, what damon's saying DOES make sense: he gets his kicks from drinking from alive people and HAVING FUN with what he's doing. he decides to be in control, because he doesn't kill (unless he wants to) but he uses the opportunity to have some fun.

what stefan does is looks at it from a completely different angle, his division is very strict. animal blood=control, human blood= no control, and no control=no fun. stefan's doing the angel thing (having a curse that means he'll become a monster if he "has fun") only well, with stefan there's no actual curse, only his own assessment of his situation, which is that if he enjoys things for one second, he'll become a ripper again and all hell will break loose. for him, having fun means losing control, because he's never really learnt to take pleasure in just feeding on someone, he needs to go all the way if he's doing it, which is why he goes for the kill, always.

and now if we return to our current situation, which is elena needing blood and needing to learn how to feed on a human and continue being able to look at herself in the mirror, i see no problem with her having some fun with feeding on humans (without causing them permanent damage, which she hasn't) and by doing that, assuring that she's never too hungry and never feels the need to go off on a ripper/killing spree: because she's already gotten her kicks, thankyouverymuch.

so, show, i will continue to have problems with everyone claiming that elena being a vampire and having a different eating regime than humans means she should never again have fun with her food.

also i enjoyed the trash quasi orgies scene at the bloodied party. never change, my OTP.

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Date: 2012-11-02 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spuffy-noelle.livejournal.com
which, really, bonnie, the next time someone stands by your plate while you eat lunch and make you feel awful because you're enjoying your pork which used to be a happy pig rolling around in mud, well, then we'll talk.

BONNIE IS A BUZZ KILL. I'm sorry I know a lot of people like her and I know there really isn't much to be happy about in Mystic Falls, but it's always been the reason I have ~meh feelings about her.

In regards to the whole cure business. Isn't Klaus putting a whole lotta faith into a guy who promised his sister a "cure" and promptly shoved a dagger through her chest?

In conclusion, let me have Damon/Elena and Klaus/Rebekah scenes only please.
Edited Date: 2012-11-02 07:22 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2012-11-03 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
+ ok well i've been thinking and i don't think i'm actually mad at bonnie for reacting like she did? i mean, for all she knows elena may have just killed 10 people, but what i am mad at is the validation of bonnie's ~judgment of elena that happens later when elena rambles about this being all wrong and that it should have been stefan by her side, which what and why?

+ klaus, failing as a villain since always, tbh <3

+ <33333333333333
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Date: 2012-11-03 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spuffy-noelle.livejournal.com
Damon basically (if not explicitly) spelled it out for Bonnie. He was there to teach Elena how to feed, and dumb frat boys were the lesson plan. So, I mean she did kinda have a heads up. Plus she kinda already did the best friend becomes vampire thing so...

IDK Maybe if the show gave Bonnie a plot that didn't involve every single one of her family members being murdered she'd be a little bit more fun ;)
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Date: 2012-11-04 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
sure, though i can still realize she's not very sure what's going on + yes, fraternizing with damon is eternally frowned upon, which w/e.

i really want to see bonnie's magic further explored in this season <3 plus want to see her do some friendshippy things with her girls <3
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Date: 2012-11-02 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xx-pinkstar.livejournal.com
I didn't even notice Caroline's absence, oop :/


lol. what i really want is a jeremy/april/rebekah/matt love rectangle. that would just make all of my days a lot more enjoyable. but most of all, i really just want rebekah to make friends


lol MTE, I mentioned that I mostly just want Damon and Bekah to be each others best friends but ~shrugs~ the mortal will do for now.

TROLOLOLOL THAT PICTURE IS SO GLORIOUS, I WISH IT WAS A POSTER. I can't even talk about my Klaus/Rebekah feelz after the emotional outpouring I had in my post. But. Yeah ;_; the beauty of my fucked up siblings. I love them so.


which, really, bonnie, the next time someone stands by your plate while you eat lunch and make you feel awful because you're enjoying your pork which used to be a happy pig rolling around in mud, well, then we'll talk.


you are my favourite ever.

I have nothing to add to the OT3 of doom argument. Damon is right and Stefan and Bonnie are wrong, it is legit that simple for me. Stefasaurus Rex is just bored when there isn't enough drama in his life tbh, he needs to create some.
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Date: 2012-11-03 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
oh obviously. if anyone, bekah should be damon's new drinking buddy. my vote goes for her.

I MEAN REALLY THOSE TWO WERE AMAZING IN THIS EPISODE OF COURSE NO ONE REALIZES WHY SHE HAS TO BE DAGGERED AGAIN BUT IT CAN'T REALLY LAST LONG CAN IT AND KLAUS IS JUST BEING JEALOUS AND THINGS AND FEELS.

you are my favourite ever.



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Date: 2012-11-02 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eilowyn.livejournal.com
i really just want rebekah to make friends

THIS.


so what remains as the only conclusion that makes sense is that the show/bonnie want elena to feel bad because she's enjoying it. which is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING AWFUL ON SO MANY LEVELS. she doesn't kill them, she doesn't ~damage them, everything she does is take a bit of their blood. (and mind you, she's not being judged for taking their blood, she's being judged for enjoying it.)

Bonnie was quite the buzzkill this episode, right? And I think the problem wasn't just that Elena was enjoying herself when she took blood, it was that she was enjoying herself with Damon. Because we all know what a bad boy that Damon is.

I have a vampire binary in my head, where they're either Louis-Stefan-Angel vampires or Lestat-Damon-Spike vampires, and in a thesis I was writing I called the Lestat-Damon-Spike vampires the "revelers," and Damon's speech to Bonnie pretty much was exactly what I would expect and want a reveler to say. I'm totally Team Revelers instead of Team Reluctants (Louis-Stefan-Angel vampires).

And EXACTLY that bit of Stefan-meta. He totally will lose his soul will become a ripper if he enjoys being a vampire.

But can we take a moment to just ENJOY Nina/Elena's giant smile during the blood orgy? SO ADORABLE!
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Date: 2012-11-03 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
oh yes, elena getting close to damon is eternally the problem for everyone. well, we'll see what happens in the next episodes.

OH YES AGREE WITH YOU. don't know much about louis or lestat, but definitely agree about angel/spike/damon/stefan and the bill/eric dynamics work pretty much the same way in true blood.

He totally will lose his soul will become a ripper if he enjoys being a vampire.

which is something i'd like explored more than just him randomly saying it to caroline in one scene.

SO ADORABLE!



and their hug was so precious.
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Date: 2012-11-02 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicalyse.livejournal.com
I'm just here to say I agree with you re: Elena feeding. Why shouldn't a girl enjoy her food?

i really just want rebekah to make friends

Yes please. I also kind of want more Elena/Rebekah Means Girls stuff? It was just so amusing. Add Caroline.

But beyond that, I have nothing interesting to add.

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Date: 2012-11-03 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
Why shouldn't a girl enjoy her food?

exactly. enough with the grief people, and the judging, let's have fun.

Yes please. I also kind of want more Elena/Rebekah Means Girls stuff? It was just so amusing. Add Caroline.

YES PLEASE. they should just go around attending high school forever and being mean Queen Bees.

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Date: 2012-11-03 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicalyse.livejournal.com
they should just go around attending high school forever and being mean Queen Bees.

Do want. You someone should write fic. Elena enrolls somewhere with Caroline; Rebekah follows and fucks up their plans. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
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Date: 2012-11-03 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
I WOULD WATCH THAT SHOW FOREVER. occasionally boys come over and try to mess with their fun but the sisterhood is strong and they just ignore them and laugh at stefan and damon fighting over the same thing all over again while elena does keg stands and rebekah and caroline plan dances and things and compel people to vote for them for prom queen.
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Date: 2012-11-03 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicalyse.livejournal.com
I WOULD WATCH THAT SHOW FOREVER.

Amen, sister.

At least once Rebekah would have to miss prom because she's daggered. Naturally, this is the one time that she's managed to compel more people than Caroline and, you know, win. Tyler will tell them they're being mean; Elena will flip her hair.
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Date: 2012-11-03 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
At least once Rebekah would have to miss prom because she's daggered. Naturally, this is the one time that she's managed to compel more people than Caroline and, you know, win. Tyler will tell them they're being mean; Elena will flip her hair.

BLESS YOU.

this fandom really lacks this sort of happy AUish sort of fic where everyone just eternally messes with everyone else and everything is always shiny and pretty and about wearing the prettiest dress.
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Date: 2012-11-03 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicalyse.livejournal.com
this fandom really lacks this sort of happy AUish sort of fic where everyone just eternally messes with everyone else and everything is always shiny and pretty and about wearing the prettiest dress.

I have to say, I dig angst. A lot. But sometimes I want some ridiculousness.

I see a series of AUish crack!fics, all plays on well-known teen movies and the related tropes. TVD does The Breakfast Club. TVD does Mean Girls. TVD does She's All That.

All the crack!fic!
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Date: 2012-11-03 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
OH SURE. in the breakfast part one, all the vamps in detention eat the human kid who's there with them (or someone from the school staff) and then bond over it, in mean girls, well, all of them are mean, that's easy :D and in she's all that i see elena trying to get damon to wear white shirts and glasses and ~falling for him in the process.

THERE SHOULD BE MORE CRACK!FIC, but i've written my share of crack!fic for the day, passing on the duty forward to someone else :P
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Date: 2012-11-03 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicalyse.livejournal.com
all the vamps in detention eat the human kid who's there with them (or someone from the school staff) and then bond over it

All the awards. You've given me the giggles.

(For some reason I'm seeing Alaric as the principal, which makes no sense since I really like Alaric, but the whole "mess with the bull" thing as done by Ric is HILARIOUS in my head.)
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Date: 2012-11-03 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com


lol. THAT WOULD BE HILARIOUS <3
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Date: 2012-11-03 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com
but lol stefan maybe you should have a talk with elena, rather than, you know, making decisions for her?
no shit. but oh no, he values her humanity ~so much~~~~~~~~~~. nocurr about unaddressed rank paternalism.

WHAT IS THAT COMIC. I CAN'T? I DON'T? VOMITING EVERYWHERE.

everyone (fine, i mean bonnie) should stop trying to make elena feel guilty.
i actually don't blame bonnie for her reaction? i think it's natural to be shocked/horrified at the sight of your childhood friend fooling around with other people's blood all over their face. i don't think she's right to shame elena at all, but i get her insta-reaction.

honestly, i'm far more repulsed by stefan's insistence on maintaining completely unrealistic standards for elena, given that he is a vile piece of shit himself. so done with him.
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Date: 2012-11-03 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
oh please, by the sheer awesome women this show's managed to produce, i thought we'd be completely free from the bullshit stories of white picket fences and i want elena to carry my babiez.

i won't even, i can't even with it, so i choose to mostly ignore its existence.

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Date: 2012-11-03 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wheatear.livejournal.com
everyone (fine, i mean bonnie) should stop trying to make elena feel guilty.

To be fair, I don't think Bonnie went out of her way to make Elena feel guilty. She saw Elena with blood running down her chin, understandably looked rather horrified, and then Elena felt guilty the moment she saw Bonnie's reaction. What I mean is, I think that was just a natural reaction from Bonnie, she wasn't deliberately trying to guilt trip Elena. Elena did that all by herself. (Elena had the exact same reaction to Stefan in Season 3 when Damon was trying to teach Stefan control, and iirc she was more vocal about her horror.)
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Date: 2012-11-04 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
i actually pretty much agree with you after giving it some time to sink in and think about what actually happened. what i actually disliked was sort of feeling that the show was confirming that it was ok for elena to feel guilty for this?
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Date: 2012-11-03 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vergoldung.livejournal.com
what i really want is a jeremy/april/rebekah/matt love rectangle
LOLOL seconded

KLAUS AND REBEKAH KLAUS AND REBEKAH KLAUS AND REBEKAH /cannot deal
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Date: 2012-11-04 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
IKR? HOW DO ALL OF THEM EXIST, HOOOOOW?

also, nice to see you posting again ♥
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Date: 2012-11-04 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vergoldung.livejournal.com
yep I am back *twirls* so you can spam me whenever :)
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Date: 2012-11-04 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyfrolicker.livejournal.com
YOU'RE TWIRLING WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP TWIRLING IT'S LIKE THEY KNOW I FIND IT SO VERY ADORABLE <3

good.
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Date: 2012-11-04 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vergoldung.livejournal.com
Haha, I like to impress you with my ~adorableness.

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Date: 2012-11-04 12:36 am (UTC)

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